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Cycle X
Power Arc Ignitions.
Honda CB750 owners have been limited
to Dynosaur Ignition systems for years. ( magnetic type sensors )
and Ignition Coils that were designed in the 19th Century.
Here is the Bad news !!!!!!!
Magnetic sensors can cause timing to be
off as much as 14 degrees. ( plus or minus ± 7°)
(Magnets and Magnetic sensors are effected by metal mass, motion, heat
and distance from pickup)
The illustration below shows the inconsistency of Magnetic sensors.
This unwanted fluctuation in ignition timing will make your motor unhappy and
give you the impression the motor is not internally balanced properly.
The coils (paper wrapped) is considered to be early 1900's technology.
This Ignition causes coils develop excessive heat and are prone to failure, due
to lack of dwell control leaving the coils on excessively.
Leaving the ignition switch on can cause failure to the coils or the Dyna
"S" or both.
Our ignitions have an automatic shut-off coil shut off to prevent such heat and
failure.
Dyna 2000's claim to have an coil-off situation, but the minute the motor is
turned over they stay on and key must be shut off if engine is killed.
Ever wonder why most racers carry extra sets of coils ?
Here is the good news !!!!!!!
Introducing the Cycle X IDS C and CP
versions Power Arc Ignitions
IDS C2-HCB Optically Triggered Ignition
Features preprogrammed:
Spark timing placement in 1° increments.
Placement of 3 Sparks / Compress Stroke.
2 Digital sensors inputs.
4 Independent timing curves.
Electronic 4 Tach output.
Coil saturation control ( dwell )
Curve fall back.
Static timing light.
Automatic Coil shutoff
One coil pack for your 4 cylinder.
Capable of 80,000 volts of out-put.
Extremely fast rise time.
Sparks 3 times every compression stroke and continues through-out the RPM range.
( full voltage output )
Other multiple spark ignitions on the market do not multi-spark after no more
than 3 thousand RPM.
High amperage output.
Quick disconnect connector.
Fires at low voltage for easy starting, eliminating starter kickback.
Coils feature section bobbin construction ( no paper )
All features are Re-programmable with CP version Ignitions via PLC cable.
(CP Re-programmable Ignition and PLC are Optional)
Installation Instructions
IDS CP2-HCB Ignitions
All features of the CP2-HCB can be Customized and reprogrammed.
4 Independent Ignition timing curves (controlled by grounding or ungrounding 2
sensor wires)
Coil saturation and placement of all timing sparks 1 thru 3 in multi-spark
Selection of number of output sparks 1-3
Tachometer output type 2-8 cylinder output
Curve Fall back
Rev Limiters (independent in each of the 4 timing curves)
Notes section for timing curve information
2 Sensor Wires may be Grounded or Ungrounded to control timing, between 4
distinctly different timing curves.
May be used to control timing with VOES (Vacuum Operated Switch), Nitrous
Solenoid via
relay, Boost Switch, Engine Temperature Sensors or manually controlled via
toggle switches.
The best ignition available for Honda cb750's ( period )
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USE OPTICALLY TRIGGERED IGNITIONS
Please observe
the above animation. Most electronic ignitions used to date sense
crank angle by using a Hall effect pickup, which is a magnetic type
sensor. This type of sensor is inherently unstable & is effected
by metal mass, motion, heat & distance from pickup. In
addition most ignitions only sense position once per revolution.
The control system must estimate current engine speed based on the
rotational velocity of the previous revolution. Sudden
acceleration or deceleration will cause instability. This instability
causes internal vibration that can be observed by the movement seen on
the flywheel when using a timing light. The use of a magnetic type
sensor can cause timing to be off as much as ±7° giving an overall
deviation of 14° or more. With an optical sensor you are breaking a
light beam and light beams do not deviate! In addition absolute
positions are sensed at multiple key points on the rotor, 90
times per revolution with the new IDS system. The extreme
stability optical systems offer allows the engine to accelerate at a
much greater speed, reduces engine wear, allowing for smoother
operation & transfer of power.
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IGNITION
TIMING
Understanding engine timing & its
relation to load, compression and fuel delivery variables is important
to performance. The new IDS ignitions have programmable sensor inputs
which can be interfaced to a vacuum activated switch or a MAP sensor.
The ignition timing can be set to any value based on sensor input
status. The Power Arc CDR or SRČ also have a vacuum retard
capability. If you have a large dresser (H-D), are under heavy
load conditions, have increased engine compression, have a large
bore engine or are using NOS please use sort of ignition retard
system.
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VOES
-Vacuum Operated Emissions Switch (Harley-Davidson)
It is
recommended that you use a VOES switch if one was on your motorcycle
or you should add one if you have a high performance, heavy bike or
have wide engine load variations. A VOES is not just for emissions and
can be one of the most effective performance components of your
ignition system when used correctly. If you did not
have a VOES ground the ignition retard control wire wire. If you
have modified your bike to add performance you should raise the
setting of you existing VOES set point to activate between 5 & 5
1/2" lb. of vacuum.
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IGNITION
COILS
Pick the right type of coil, do not use
paper section coils only use section bobbin coils. Section bobbin
coils allow for fast rise times and improved reliability. Power
Arc only sells section bobbin coils.
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USE IGNITIONS
WHICH ARE MULTI-SPARK
During the intake cycle
fuel is delivered via a carburetor or injection system and intake
manifold into a combustion cylinder. Both of these delivery systems
supply fuel to the cylinder in a droplet form, especially at lower rpm
ranges. As the fuel is compressed turbulence in a circular fashion is
created due to existing head designs. As the primary spark is
discharged the concussion of the explosion combined with superheating
of the combustion chamber turns the droplets of fuel into a hot
vaporous gas. The flame front due to the rolling turbulence created by
the heads moves away from the point of ignition to the face of the
piston and to the outer cylinder walls. As the piston nears the top of
the compression stroke any remaining unburned vaporous gas is
circulated over the spark plug, and a fuel roll stall occurs. At this
point a second spark is discharged obtaining a secondary burn of the
fuel that in a single spark ignition system would be trapped in the
upper portions of the head and during the expansion portion of the
power stroke would be unburned and then be cycled out during the
exhaust cycle as emissions. With the extreme stability of an
optically triggered ignition system in a Multi-Spark mode a repeatable
secondary explosion is possible. This allows for the ability to
add more fuel without fouling the spark plugs and achieve higher
torque/horsepower
1) The extreme
stability of a optically triggered ignition system has the ability to
allow the engine to accelerate as much as 30% quicker requiring
greater fuel flow to the carburetor. This coupled with enlarged
jetting of the carburetor or increased fuel to the injectors means you
must maintain a sufficient supply line from the fuel tank to the
delivery system by use of an enlarged petcock and supply line or a
fuel pump. An example would be that at higher rpm's you may use all
the gas in the float bowl of your carburetor and create a lean run
situation damaging the engine if fuel supply is not maintained.
2) If you have a
sufficient fuel flow in a single spark mode you have enough to operate
in the Multi-Spark mode without engine damage because you are burning
residual fuel, even though your plugs may show a lean burn. This will
normally show an increase in fuel economy (if driven in a similar
fashion), horse power and a reduction of emissions output. You could
increase the fuel for more horsepower but you should be careful not to
over fuel, because if the fuel is not burned by the secondary spark it
is exhausted as burning fuel through you exhaust system increasing
heat and reducing horsepower output because of an improper air/fuel
mixture. This also results in increased emissions output, which is
unnecessary.
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Spark Plugs and Spark Plug Wires
WARNING:
Use
only resistor core spark plug wires with all Power Arc Ignitions. See
spark plug wire section below.
Use resistor spark plugs with all electronic ignitions to limit the
conducted EMI noise and radiated RFI noise..
Initial suggested settings for spark plug gaps are:
Single plug 0.028-0.032"
Dual plug 0.025-0.030"
These are maximum settings, go down from here
Spark plug gap
should be made as small as possible, while still maintaining
performance. A wide spark plug gap can cause hard cold starting,
misfires during rich or lean fuel conditions, and reduction of upper
rpm range. To maintain a good secondary spark (multiple spark) within
a wider rpm range it is wise to run a narrower spark plug gap. It is
better to precisely place two stable, consistent sparks than to fire
one wider spark that may cause misfires under various conditions.
Many things
effect spark plug gap settings
Compression Ratio: The
higher the engine compression, the more voltage required to fire the
plug, and the narrower the plug gap should be.
RPM: The higher the
rpm's the less time the coil has to charge to break over voltage or
complete saturation. A narrower spark plug gap will help high rpm
stability.
Spark plugs with large
side electrodes (ground straps) or spark plugs with split side
electrodes are not recommended, they interfere with the flame front at
the point of ignition.
Coil choice, fuel flow, intake velocities & fuel temperature are
but a few additional factors that can effect spark plug gap.
Spark Plug Choice
In
most cases, it is not until the engine is modified, or the compression
is raised significantly, that stock ignition systems and spark plugs
begin to show signs of being inadequate. At this point, a variety of
factors determine which spark plug will be best suited for a
particular configuration. In these modified engines, specific
electrode/tip combinations, electrode materials and colder heat ranges
can provide measurable gains in power. If your vehicle has had
extensive modifications, it would be best to seek the advice of the
manufacturer of your vehicle, the aftermarket supplier who
manufactured your modifications, or your mechanic.
Modifications that will
typically not require specialized plugs (in most cases the factory
installed plug will be more than adequate) include adding a
free-flowing air filter, headers, mufflers and rear-end gears.
Basically, any modification that does not alter the overall
compression ratio will not usually necessitate changing plug types or
heat ranges. Such minor modifications will not significantly increase
the amount of heat in the combustion chamber, hence, a plug change is
probably not warranted.
However, when
compression is raised, along with the added power comes added heat.
Since spark plugs must remove heat and a modified engine makes more
heat, the spark plug must remove more heat. A colder heat range spark
plug must be selected and plug gaps
should be reduced to
ensure proper ignitability in this denser air/fuel mixture.
Frequently
Asked Questions
Q: Why should I use a resistor spark
plugs & spark plug wires?
A: "R" or resistor spark
plugs use a 5k ohm ceramic resistor in the spark plug to suppress
ignition noise generated during sparking.
You must use resistor
spark plugs & wires in any vehicle that uses electronic ignitions
or on-board computer systems to monitor or control engine performance.
This is because resistor spark plugs & wires reduce (EMI)
electromagnetic interference with on-board electronics.
They are also
recommended on any vehicle that has other on-board electronic systems
such as engine-management computers, two-way radios, GPS systems, or
whenever recommended by the manufacturer.
In fact, using a
non-resistor plug or low resistance spiral wound spark plug wire in
most applications may actually cause the engine to suffer undesirable
side effects such as an erratic idle, high-rpm misfire, engine run-on,
power drop off at certain rpm levels, abnormal combustion and probable
damage to the ignition and/or ignition coil.
Q: Why are there different heat
ranges?
A: It is a common misconception that
spark plugs create heat. They don't. A heat range refers to how much
heat a spark plug is capable of removing from the combustion chamber.
Selecting a spark plug
with the proper heat range will insure that the tip will maintain a
temperature high enough to prevent fouling yet be cool enough to
prevent pre-ignition. While there are many things that can cause
pre-ignition, selecting a spark plug in the proper heat range will
ensure that the spark plug itself is not a hot spot source.
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SPARK PLUG
WIRES
Choice of spark plug wires is an
important consideration when using an electronic ignition system.
Electronic ignitions utilize IC's (integrated circuits) in there
design for counting & timing purposes. These IC's, contrary to
most thinking, are not effected by RFI (Radio Frequency Interference)
noise generated by the high voltage breakdown of coils, producing the
ignition spark. They are effected by the conducted EMI (Electro
Magnetic Interference) passed to the ground plane of the motorcycle
via the spark plug wires & plug. The most effective way to limit
the current produced in the secondary of the coil is to use carbon
core resistor plug wires. Solid core wires and most spiral wound wires
will not suppress this conducted EMI noise.
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Stability
Most electronic
ignitions used to date sense crank angle by using a Hall Effect pickup which is
a magnetic type sensor. This type of sensor is affected by metal mass,
motion, heat & distance from pickup. The Hall Effect sensor is less
stable than optical sensors causing engine inefficiencies and wear, due to
internal vibration caused by unstable firing of the spark plug. An example
of this instability would be the movement seen of the TDC timing mark on the
flywheel when using a timing light. The use of a magnetic type sensor cab
be off as much as +-7 degrees giving an overall deviation of 14 degrees.
With an optical sensor you are breaking a light beam and light beams do not
deviate! In addition, this system has no timing calculations or cycle
delay times effecting spark stability and placement because the system counts
rotor slots to maintain an absolute relative crank angle position. This
extreme stability allows the engine to accelerate at a much greater speed,
reduces engine wear, allowing for smoother operation and transfer of power.
Multi-Spark Theory
During the intake
cycle fuel is delivered via a carburetor or injection system through the intake
manifold and into the combustion chamber supplying fuel to the chamber in
droplet form. This is especially true at lower rpm ranges. As the
fuel is compressed, circular turbulence is created due to existing head
designs. The flame front generated by the fist spark leaves the point of
ignition to the face of the piston and flows to the outer cylinder walls.
As the piston advances in the compression stroke residual unburned vaporous gas,
leading the flame front, is circulated over the spark plug. When the
piston approaches TDC both static and expanding gas pressures increase and a
fuel roll stall occurs. By precisely discharging a second and third spark,
fuel trapped in the upper portions of the head and expelled during the exhaust
cycle as emissions is consumed. In a single spark ignition system this
fuel would have remained unburned. With the use of precision control and
the advancement of new coil designs we have achieved the ability to produce high
energy secondary and tertiary sparks that are required to ignite fuel that is
under higher compression after the first spark. We believe that by
consistent and precise placement of the primary, secondary, and tertiary sparks
exhaust emissions can be reduced.
Coil mounting
Some people have been
wondering !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you fit your coil pack on a stock Honda cb 750 ?
Here is a photo of our coil pack mounted under the left side cover.
This procedure will require removal of the battery box, some grinding and
drilling.
A solid state voltage reg-rec was mounted under the battery tray.
Coil mounting
Here
is the coil pack mounted in the original stock location.
We went to the hardware store and purchased three "P" clamps and
mounted the coil.
Note:
The previous problem with mounting the coil in this location was the plug connector
made contact with the gas tank.
All coils have been modified with soldered wires ( no more plug connector ) for easier
mounting.
If you have a plug connected coil version ( early style ) simply remove the
connector and solder the white, red and black wires direct.
Cycle X Power
Arc Ignitions
Question:
Points and Dyna systems
have been around for years, which means they are proven to
work.......... Well ?
Answer:
We are not looking for adequate
ignitions. We are looking for reliable, modern components and the best
performance available.
Proven ?
Yes, they have proven to be unreliable and a non performance orientated design.
Question:
You use the word "new" ignition which means it has not been proven
yet.... Right ?
Answer:
Glad you asked this
question.
The components used in this ignition have been "proven " in many other
applications for approximately 21 years.
They have survived in much harsher environments we are discussing right now.
Question:
What "real world" benefits can I expect from the CycleX power arc
ignition ?
Answer:
Well............
There should be no debate concerning the benefits this ignition offers as described
in the above technical section.
But.............Here is what we noticed.
Lower cylinder head temperatures, which results in lower oil temps. ( longer
engine life)
Smoother running ( happier motor due to "spot on" ignition
timing )
Cleaner spark plugs. ( nice )
Noticeable "seat of the pants" acceleration gains. ( my favorite )
Of course... at times like this, we should say !!!
Results may vary. ( but I doubt it )
Question:
Is this ignition made
in the USA ?
Answer:
Yes, we have worked
together with the best ignition "guru " we could find.
Question:
Will the Cycle X power
arc ignition fit on my Honda cb500,550 ?
Answer:
Yep.
Dear Cycle X
I
just want to thank you guys for developing one heck of a good product.
About two months ago I decided it was time to add a performance ignition to my
Honda CB750. So, I went with what I thought was my only choice. I'm
not one to name drop, but it starts with a "D" and ends in an
"a" (you know who I'm talking about.) Anyway, after two failed
units with less than three hundred miles on each of them, and enough money
invested to make me sick to my stomach, I decided there had to be a better
option out there. That's when a friend told me about you guys. I
could not possibly be happier with you new ignition system. The
instructions were through and easy to follow, and what a performance gain!
I swear I could tell a difference when I first fired it up. It just seemed
to even idle more smoothly. When I took it for a ride was when I really
noticed a difference. It was instant throttle response, and it kept
pulling hard all the way to the top. You guys really nailed this one on
the head.
Thanks again for a great
product
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